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i caught some of charlie rose this morning/this afternoon (technically yesterday's show.)
this was a discussion of torture, with human rights watch executive director kenneth roth and u.c. berkeley boalt law school professor and torture advocate john yoo.
yoo said that when israeli law allowed torture, it prevented suicide bombings, but unfortunately public outcry has put a stop to it. i kind of doubt that either assertion resembles truth. roth pointed out that a policy of allowing torture resulted in 80 to 90 percent of palestinians in custody being tortured, and yoo said this was basically okay because suicide bombings must be prevented.
yoo also said that as "terrorists" are non-state actors, torture is needed to get information to prevent deaths quickly and at any cost. this invites an immediate comparison to iraq, with 100,000 iraqis at least estimated killed outright, plenty tortured/raped/disappeared/ghost-imprisoned, and
children imprisoned; also leukemia, birth defects, and disease caused
for a substantial number of the youngest in the country with destroyed
infrastructure, uranium munitions, etc. to protect the world from
wmd's. no wait, for democracy.
kenneth roth covered some bases in response, but not quite all. i did not see the whole show but torture being just wrong was not mentioned. impractical and frought with potental ethical dilemmas or tricky human error perhaps, but not wrong. i might lose my kid to the state if i spank him or her, but torture is on the table.
is this new from john yoo et al?
charlie rose shows are available at http://www.charlierose.com/, but unfortunately an emailed transcript is $9.95, audio file $4.95, audio file subscription $14.95 a month...anyway, the show did not seem to be available in either format yet today when i checked.
this was a discussion of torture, with human rights watch executive director kenneth roth and u.c. berkeley boalt law school professor and torture advocate john yoo.
yoo said that when israeli law allowed torture, it prevented suicide bombings, but unfortunately public outcry has put a stop to it. i kind of doubt that either assertion resembles truth. roth pointed out that a policy of allowing torture resulted in 80 to 90 percent of palestinians in custody being tortured, and yoo said this was basically okay because suicide bombings must be prevented.
yoo also said that as "terrorists" are non-state actors, torture is needed to get information to prevent deaths quickly and at any cost. this invites an immediate comparison to iraq, with 100,000 iraqis at least estimated killed outright, plenty tortured/raped/disappeared/ghost-impriso
kenneth roth covered some bases in response, but not quite all. i did not see the whole show but torture being just wrong was not mentioned. impractical and frought with potental ethical dilemmas or tricky human error perhaps, but not wrong. i might lose my kid to the state if i spank him or her, but torture is on the table.
is this new from john yoo et al?
charlie rose shows are available at http://www.charlierose.com/, but unfortunately an emailed transcript is $9.95, audio file $4.95, audio file subscription $14.95 a month...anyway, the show did not seem to be available in either format yet today when i checked.
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